George Frederick MOSS

Male Abt 1893 - 1963  (~ 70 years)


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  • Name George Frederick MOSS  [1, 2
    Born Abt 1893  East London, South Africa Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Birth 1893  East London, South Africa Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Note
    • Check Electoral Rolls for George Moss to see if we can obtain a birth date. Emailed Stamford Town Hall 18 Jan 06.

      Check County Council for records on rented property at No 1 Bentley St, Stamford, Lincs and No 1 Gloucester Road, Stamford, Lincs. This is to see if George had to give a birth date in order to rent a property. Emailed South Kesteven Council 18 Jan 06.

      Lived with the Rppin family at No 1 Bentley St.

      Dear Paul

      I very much doubt whether this Institute will be able to assist you (and you will shortly find out why).

      Allow me to explain that the registration of births, deaths and marriages was only made obligatory by law in the Cape Colony in 1895 and in 1900 for the rest of South Africa. That is why the High Commission in London as well as the South African Department of Home Affairs would not be able to help. Early birth registrations for the Cape (from ca. 1895 tot 1910) are kept in the National Archives in Cape Town (to which we have no direct access).

      For births before 1895 one has to rely on church records and to be more specific - baptismal registers. Although we have all the church records (baptisms, marriages and membership) of the three Afrikaanspeaking Dutch Reformed sister churches (NG Church Hervomde Church and Gereformeerde Church) from 1660 up to 1995 on microfilm, we have no records of any English speaking denomination available.

      Therefore, unless George Moss was a member of one of the three Dutch Reformed denominations, we would not be in a position to assist. Anglican records are kept at Wits University Library in Johannesburg, Methodist records at the Cory Library of Rhodes University in Grahmstown etc.

      With kind regards

      Leon Endemann

      Hello Paul

      Yes, I remember your MOSS family.

      There are no indexes to births in SA as there are in the UK. I can go to the Cape Town Archives and search through the birth registers they have for East London for MOSS births, but would like you to be aware that I might not find anything. If I find any MOSS entries, I would be able to take a photograph of the entry and email it to you.

      My hourly rate is £10 an hour.

      I don't keep records of research for longer than 3 months, so would have to ask you to send me
      1. the names of those to search for
      2. the dates between which you would like me to search.

      About the black blood/Dutch Afrikaans rumour: it might well be true. In the early days when white women were scarce, many of the Dutch settlers had relationships with black women and in some cases married slaves. If your MOSS family married into a Dutch/Afrikaans family, there might well be a black woman or a slave further back in the family tree.

      Best wishes
      Anne


      Dear mr Smith

      Thank you for your email. We will give it the necessary attention and report to you in due time.

      Kind regards
      Alta Vrey
      Archive, Stellenbosch

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      From: smudger28 [mailto:smudger28@@supanet.com]
      Sent: 17 November 2006 01:06 PM
      To: ngkinlig@@mweb.co.za
      Subject: Moss Baptisms

      Dear Sir/Madam

      I'm not sure this is the correct place but here goes. I have been told by a family member that we may have Dutch Afrikaan in our ancestory. I have for the past two years been trying to locate members of my family in and around East London. Now I'm not sure if the name MOSS is very Dutch at all. I was wondering if you could check your baptism records for such a name.

      The family I'm looking for is as follows
      George MOSS born 1893 East London.
      John'Jack' MOSS
      Henry MOSS
      Ginny MOSS
      George is my Great Gradfather. I know they lived at 30 Tennyson street, East London during the 1st World War as John is down as George & Henry's next of kin.

      I don't know if you can help in anyway? I do hope so as this has been a big mystery.

      Kindest Regards

      Paul Smith
    SW Group
    Residence 4 Vine Street, Stamford, Lincolnshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Residence 1921  1 Bentley Street, Stamford, Lincolnshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Died 13 Jun 1963  Stamford Hospital, Stamford, Lincolnshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Buried 17 Jun 1963  Garden Of Rememberance, Marholm, Peterborough, Northamptonshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    Person ID I4514  Southwest
    Last Modified 29 Oct 2013 

    Father Louis MOSS,   b. 25 Mar 1860, Queenstown, South Africa Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 3 Aug 1899, East London, South Africa Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 39 years) 
    Mother Ellen DOMINEY,   b. Abt 1868, King Williamstown, South Africa Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Married 14 Apr 1885 
    Family ID F1489  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Mabel Bessie BAXTER,   b. 1893, Stamford, Lincolnshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1979, Stamford Hospital, Stamford, Lincolnshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 86 years) 
    Married 5 Nov 1917  Registry Office, Leicester, Leicestershire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 4
    Children 
     1. Vera Gladys MOSS,   b. 17 Apr 1918, 4 Vine Street, Stamford, Lincolnshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1919, Stamford, Lincolnshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 0 years)
     2. Peter George MOSS,   b. 4 Mar 1920, Peterborough, Northamptonshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 29 Jul 1999, Stamford, Lincolnshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 79 years)
    Family ID F1439  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBorn - Abt 1893 - East London, South Africa Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsBirth - 1893 - East London, South Africa Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - - 4 Vine Street, Stamford, Lincolnshire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarried - 5 Nov 1917 - Registry Office, Leicester, Leicestershire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 1921 - 1 Bentley Street, Stamford, Lincolnshire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDied - 13 Jun 1963 - Stamford Hospital, Stamford, Lincolnshire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsBuried - 17 Jun 1963 - Garden Of Rememberance, Marholm, Peterborough, Northamptonshire, England Link to Google Earth
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  • Sources 
    1. [S905] Smith2.FTW, 905.
      || Date of Import: 17 Jun 2005

    2. [S966] Gedcom, Smith, Paul, (Falmouth, Cornwall, England), M0601S197.

    3. [S940] Marholm Crematorium, 940., Ref # 3813.
      || Phonecall dated 06 Jul 2005 to Marholm Crematorium. Registers were checked and confirmed. George was living at Gloucester Rd at the time. Mabel interred George into the Crematorium.

    4. [S950] Marriage Certificate, 950.
      || Marriage solemnized at the Register Office in the distirct Of Leicester in the county borough of Leicester.

      5th November George Moss aged 23 Bachelor Private 1st S.A.I. 48 Noble Street Leicester.

      Mabel Baxter aged 24 Spinster Looker Through Hosiery 81 Montague Road Leicester.

      Father Jack John Moss (Deceased) Police Sargeant.

      Jesse Baxter Engineer Yard Foreman.

      Witness

      Jesse Baxter
      Alice Mather ?